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		<title>Carotid Chokes and Breath Play</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I mentioned breath play a bit in my last post; specifically, that Jay Wiseman is against all forms of breath play. And as a preface to this, don&#8217;t try carotid chokes until you&#8217;ve been taught by someone who knows what they&#8217;re doing, and have practiced it with someone on the other end that knows what [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mentioned breath play a bit in my <a href="http://bdsmweblog.com/2010/02/15/tame-bdsm-how-to-books/">last post</a>; specifically, that Jay Wiseman is against all forms of breath play. And as a preface to this, don&#8217;t try carotid chokes until you&#8217;ve been taught by someone who knows what they&#8217;re doing, and have practiced it with someone on the other end that knows what it should feel like when properly applied (so they can tell you first-hand whether you&#8217;re doing it right or not).  Judo and Brazilian Jiu Jitsu classes are great for learning these techniques. I do not purport to be an expert on any of this. I have some experience, and that is all that I can speak of.</p>
<p>What I engage in is really more of &#8220;oxygen play&#8221; than breath play &#8212; coming from a martial arts background, I know a variety of chokes, and in martial arts they are split into two categories: blood chokes and air chokes.  Blood chokes (like the sleeper hold, also known as the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=176SLdBhj_A" target="_blank">rear naked choke</a>) cut off the flow of blood to the brain, whereas air chokes cut off the air supply to the lungs (which eventually cuts off the supply of oxygen to the brain).  Blood chokes are far and away my favorite, for a couple of reasons.</p>
<p>First, blood chokes are much <strong>safer</strong>.  Air chokes, which generally put pressure on the trachea, can cause damage to the trachea if there is too much struggling or if you apply the choke too hard.  With blood chokes, unless you&#8217;re incredibly strong and using all of your strength, it&#8217;s unlikely that you&#8217;ll cause any damage even if you put the choke on very hard (assuming you let go once the other person goes limp).  According to Knight&#8217;s book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Knights-Forensic-Pathology-Arnold-Publication/dp/0340760443" target="_blank">Forensic Pathology</a>, there is an expert consensus that it takes a minimum of four to six minutes to start to do permanent brain damage with a completely effective choke hold. So when you&#8217;re talking about 10 seconds or less, you should be well within the safe zone.</p>
<p>Second, the effect of a blood choke is almost <strong>immediate </strong>&#8211; you can choke someone to unconsciousness in easily under 10 seconds, whereas with an air choke it could take a minute or more. This can be good and bad, depending on what you&#8217;re going for.  With an air choke, that leaves more time for panic (if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re going for), but also more time for struggling, and more opportunities for an accident to occur. I don&#8217;t care how bad a girl she&#8217;s been; crushing her trachea is not appropriate punishment!</p>
<p>A note about blood chokes and unconsciousness: there are several levels of unconsciousness, and a properly applied blood choke will put someone into a basic level of unconsciousness quickly. So quickly and easily that you might think they&#8217;re faking. Trust me, they&#8217;re not.  And while you can safely apply the choke for a while longer after this &#8212; maybe an extra 5-10 seconds &#8212; their body will reflexively go into panic mode, and even though they&#8217;re unconscious, they will thrash about.  While this isn&#8217;t particularly dangerous for them if you have them secured (and assuming you don&#8217;t apply the choke for a long time after that), it will cause them to come back to consciousness more panicked, and generally with a splitting headache to boot. I&#8217;ve made this mistake before, so please learn from my mistakes!</p>
<p>Also, choking to the point of unconsciousness is (of course) not the only option, nor one I necessarily recommend. It takes a huge level of trust from the bottom, and a fair amount of knowledge from the top, to safely do that. Engaging in carotid chokes that do not end in unconsciousness (i.e. are only applied for a second or two) also gives that feeling of power exchange, the moment of panic, the building of trust.</p>
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<p>The other night, I talked some with my girl about breath play, trying to find out what she gets from it. I highly recommend that you talk with your partner about these sorts of things, by the way &#8212; not just breath play, but your SM relationship in general. Getting a peek into your partner&#8217;s head helps you know them better, which strengthens the bond, and also makes play more fun. Knowledge is power, after all. *grin*</p>
<p>For her, there are several elements. There is the element of struggle, which is enjoyable for her. She is physically strong, and also grew up with two brothers, so she&#8217;s used to wrestling. She also has dated far more women than men, and even the men she&#8217;s dated she&#8217;s been able to physically best them in such situations for the most part. So she&#8217;s used to winning. For me (a skinny guy) to be able to physically overpower her when she&#8217;s really trying gives a certain edge to it; she&#8217;s not roleplaying and pretending to let me take control over her, I am physically taking control of her in a very real way.</p>
<p>There is the physical element as well. Breath play makes orgasms more intense. This is no doubt why so many deaths from auto-erotic asphyxiation occur. I&#8217;m not sure how much of this is purely physical, and how much psychological. I can say that even clasping a hand around a partner&#8217;s throat and applying light pressure has seemed to make their orgasms more intense. Note that this experience is always with people who welcomed it though &#8212; it&#8217;s absolutely <em>not</em> the sort of thing you do without discussing it first. But I don&#8217;t need to tell you that. You are all negotiating before scenes, and all you tops that want to engage in breath play are asking if it&#8217;s okay, right? Good, I thought so!</p>
<p>But the biggest aspect is trust. Once I lock in a choke, there is the moment of panic. She knows that she is completely powerless, at my whim. And though there is that survival instinct screaming in her brain, she also knows that she is in no danger. It&#8217;s exciting; it&#8217;s a rush of adrenaline; it both requires trust and strengthens it.</p>
<p>And then when she comes to, there is that split second where she doesn&#8217;t know where she is, what&#8217;s going on, or what just happened. Fear. Confusion. But she sees my face, feels me against her, and she is immediately at ease. The contrast from one extreme to the other makes it all the more significant.</p>
<p>From my end, it&#8217;s the exact same from the other side of the coin. It is an amazing feeling of control, and it feels good knowing that someone trusts you to that extent. You can see it, and feel it. In this day and age of emotional repression and distancing, it is beautiful to be able to form a bond that close, and in doing this sort of thing, you experience how deep of a bond it really is.</p>
<p>Though all SM activities require trust, I think that breath play, and especially breath play involving carotid choking to the point of unconsciousness, requires a different level of trust. If the top were to do something wrong, by accident or on purpose, it could more easily and quickly result in death than with any other SM activity that immediately comes to mind.  The worst-case scenario, no matter how unlikely, is still pretty extreme. Perhaps this is one of the reasons that Jay Wiseman is against it.</p>
<p>For me, the risks are acceptable; my girl is more likely to be injured or killed out driving than while in my arms&#8217; crushing caress. It&#8217;s a risk that each person involved has to weigh, but some people see it as unquestionably too dangerous to engage in, and I personally disagree vehemently with that notion.</p>
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